i could not find actual airspaces for germany in this forum.

now i try something different:
http://www.skyfool.de/garmin-karten/
http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/104604-luftraumstruktur-in-garmin-gns-430-und-vfr-pflichtmeldepunkte-im-plan-g/#comment-730510

this time i also rename "resources\gns430\airspaces"....
and created a new empty airspaces-folder, because of an "exception"-error-log-message...

okay, now i have no airspaces at all, but i have no crashes.
i had two files at "resources\gns430\airspaces":

08.06.2014  03:56         1.284.585 usa-mit-DE.txt
19.07.2014  00:50         1.062.962 usa.txt

is one from laminar or should i use actual airspace-files from this forum?

found a hint at http://www.tasoftware.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2698.msg16211;topicseen#msg16211
this time i renamed the folder "custom data\gns430\airspaces" to generate a clean data-folder...
when i zoom out, i got again a crash:

22:15:45.5 Starting Plan-G (W7 edition), build 3.1.4.120
22:15:45.5 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0
22:15:45.6 InitDataFolder
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
22:15:45.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
22:15:46.5 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\game\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
22:15:46.7 Program in: D:\xplane\Plan-G
22:15:46.7 Data in: C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files
22:15:46.7 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:15:46.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:15:46.7 IsDataLoaded: FS9
22:15:46.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:15:46.7 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
22:15:46.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:15:46.8 IsDataLoaded: P3D
22:15:46.9 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:15:46.9 Starting timer
22:15:46.9 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
22:15:47.0 Metar19Z.TXT started
22:15:47.0 Metar20Z.TXT started
22:15:47.1 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:15:47.1 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:15:47.1 IsDataLoaded: FS9
22:15:47.1 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:15:47.1 IsDataLoaded: P3D
22:15:47.1 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:15:47.1 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
22:15:47.1 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:15:49.4 Stopping timer
22:15:49.4 StartMap
22:15:49.5 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf'
22:15:49.6 Metar20Z.TXT done
22:15:49.8 NdbsInBounds 0
22:15:49.8 VorsInBounds 0
22:15:50.0 AirportsInBounds 0
22:15:50.0 AirspaceInBounds 0
22:15:50.0 NdbsInBounds 0
22:15:50.0 VorsInBounds 0
22:15:50.0 AirportsInBounds 0
22:15:50.1 AirspaceInBounds 0
22:15:50.2 Metar19Z.TXT done
22:15:50.2 DownloadCurrentMetars done
22:15:50.8 ProcessMetars done
22:16:03.6 Building database for X-Plane. Folder is: X:\x-plane10
22:16:03.6 Preparing database for new data
22:16:03.6 Erasing
22:16:03.7 DeleteExistingData: System.IO.IOException: Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei "C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf" zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen Prozess verwendet wird.
   bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
   bei System.IO.File.InternalDelete(String path, Boolean checkHost)
   bei System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
   bei Plan_G3.Data.FSData.DeleteExistingData()
22:16:03.7 Scanne usa-mit-DE.txt
22:16:03.7 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\GNS430\airspaces\usa-mit-DE.txt
22:16:06.1 E
[...]
22:16:34.9 Scanne usa.txt
22:16:34.9 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\GNS430\airspaces\usa.txt
22:16:36.6 E
[...]
22:16:38.3 E
22:16:38.4 Schreibe  6479 Luftraumgrenzen
22:16:39.7 Scanne apt.dat
22:16:39.8 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EBBR Brussels\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:39.8 PC format
22:16:40.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:40.2 PC format
22:16:41.1 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:41.1 PC format
22:16:41.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EGBB Birmingham\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:41.2 PC format
22:16:41.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EGKK London-Gatwick\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:41.2 PC format
22:16:41.3 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:41.3 PC format
22:16:42.7 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EGPF Glasgow\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:42.7 PC format
22:16:42.7 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - EGSS London-Stansted\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:42.7 PC format
22:16:42.9 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LEBL Barcelona\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:42.9 PC format
22:16:43.1 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LEMD Madrid\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:43.1 PC format
22:16:44.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:44.2 PC format
22:16:44.3 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LFPG Paris CDG\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:44.3 PC format
22:16:44.8 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:44.8 PC format
22:16:45.0 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LPFR Faro\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:45.0 PC format
22:16:45.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Aerosoft - LSGG Genf\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:45.2 PC format
22:16:45.5 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\Global Airports\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:16:45.5 Mac format
22:17:03.2 Duplicate airport EDDF Frankfurt am Main rejected.
22:18:56.2 Duplicate airport LEBL Barcelona - El Prat rejected.
22:19:09.6 Duplicate airport LSGG Geneva rejected.
22:19:45.0 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\KSEA Demo Area\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:19:45.0 PC format
22:19:45.4 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\LOWI Demo Area\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:19:45.4 Mac format
22:19:45.6 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Custom Scenery\LOWW Wien Schwechat 1.1\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:19:45.6 PC format
22:19:46.2 Duplicate airport LOWW Wien Schwechat rejected.
22:19:46.2 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default scenery\default apt dat\Earth nav data\apt.dat
22:19:46.3 Mac format
22:19:46.3 Duplicate airport 0B7 Warren-Sugarbush rejected.
[...]
22:24:21.0 Duplicate airport LPFR Faro rejected.
22:25:24.3 Schreibe 34744 Flugplätze
22:25:25.6 Schreibe  35260 Landebahnen
22:25:26.2
22:25:28.1 Schreibe  22294 Com Frequenzen
22:25:29.3 Schreibe  79108 Landebahnen (2)
22:25:33.6 Schreibe  43973 Parkpositionen
22:25:33.6 truncated data: tie_down heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos Conover --> tie_down heavy|jets|turboprops|props|hel
[...]
22:25:57.0 truncated data: gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 229 --> gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 2
22:25:57.0 Schreibe  126713 Vorfelder (1)
22:26:06.4 Schreibe  1749051 Vorfelder (2)
22:28:47.6 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (1)
22:28:47.6 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (2)
22:28:47.6 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (3)
22:28:47.9 Committing Airport changes
22:28:47.9 Scanne earth_nav.dat
22:28:47.9 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default data\earth_nav.dat
22:28:47.9 PC format
22:28:47.9 Succeeded NDB Region: AA_1
[...]
22:29:09.4 Succeeded VOR Region: LUK_1
22:29:09.4 Schreibe  7172 NDB´s
22:29:09.9 Schreibe  7982 VOR´s
22:29:10.5 Scanne earth_fix.dat
22:29:10.5 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default data\earth_fix.dat
22:29:10.5 PC format
22:29:20.2 Schreibe  130010 Intersections
22:29:25.5 Scanne earth_awy.dat
22:29:25.5 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default data\earth_awy.dat
22:29:25.5 PC format
22:29:30.6 Schreibe  37195 Luftstraßen
22:30:47.0 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
22:30:47.0 Metar19Z.TXT started
22:30:47.0 Metar20Z.TXT started
22:30:49.8 Metar20Z.TXT done
22:30:50.4 Metar19Z.TXT done
22:30:50.4 DownloadCurrentMetars done
22:30:51.0 ProcessMetars done
22:31:14.7 Build-DB cleanup lambda
22:31:14.7 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:31:14.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:31:14.7 IsDataLoaded: FS9
22:31:14.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:31:14.7 IsDataLoaded: P3D
22:31:14.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:31:14.7 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
22:31:14.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:31:15.1 NdbsInBounds 7
22:31:15.2 VorsInBounds 3
22:31:15.5 AirportsInBounds 17
22:31:15.7 AirspaceInBounds 19
22:31:15.7 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:31:15.7 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:31:15.7 IsDataLoaded: FS9
22:31:15.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:31:15.8 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
22:31:15.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:31:22.1 NdbsInBounds 15
22:31:22.2 VorsInBounds 8
22:31:22.2 AirportsInBounds 30
22:31:22.3 AirspaceInBounds 52
22:31:23.9 NdbsInBounds 11
22:31:24.0 VorsInBounds 12
22:31:24.0 AirportsInBounds 47
22:31:24.2 AirspaceInBounds 68
22:31:26.8 NdbsInBounds 7
22:31:26.8 VorsInBounds 9
22:31:26.8 AirportsInBounds 52
22:31:27.0 AirspaceInBounds 66
22:31:27.9 NdbsInBounds 2
22:31:27.9 VorsInBounds 3
22:31:27.9 AirportsInBounds 17
22:31:27.9 AirspaceInBounds 37
22:31:29.6 NdbsInBounds 6
22:31:29.6 VorsInBounds 8
22:31:29.6 AirportsInBounds 49
22:31:29.7 AirspaceInBounds 66
22:31:31.7 NdbsInBounds 14
22:31:31.7 VorsInBounds 16
22:31:31.7 AirportsInBounds 57
22:31:31.9 AirspaceInBounds 70
22:31:33.9 NdbsInBounds 7
22:31:33.9 VorsInBounds 10
22:31:34.0 AirportsInBounds 52
22:31:34.0 AirspaceInBounds 69
22:31:41.0 NdbsInBounds 36
22:31:41.0 VorsInBounds 42
22:31:41.1 AirportsInBounds 182
22:31:41.4 AirspaceInBounds 144


maybe i did not install 3.1.3.113 as admin.
now i installed 3.1.4.120 and needed less than 20 minutes to generate x-plane-data.
i can find no errors at the log, but gplan is crashing again.
i try to understand chapter 5.4, so i renamed the custom scenery folder and the data folder to generate a clean new data-folder.

[...]
21:41:42.9 Schreibe  6479 Luftraumgrenzen
21:41:44.1 Scanne apt.dat
21:41:44.1 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default scenery\default apt dat\Earth nav data\apt.dat
21:41:44.2 Mac format
21:45:29.4 Duplicate airport EGCC Manchester Intl rejected.
21:47:59.7 Schreibe 34744 Flugplätze
21:48:01.1 Schreibe  35258 Landebahnen
21:48:01.8
21:48:03.4 Schreibe  22293 Com Frequenzen
21:48:04.7 Schreibe  79101 Landebahnen (2)
21:48:09.6 Schreibe  43842 Parkpositionen
21:48:09.6 truncated data: tie_down heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos Conover --> tie_down heavy|jets|turboprops|props|hel
[...]
21:48:33.4 truncated data: gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 224 --> gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 2
21:48:33.4 truncated data: gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 320 --> gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 3
21:48:33.4 truncated data: gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 229 --> gate heavy|jets|turboprops|props|helos 2
21:48:33.4 Schreibe  127006 Vorfelder (1)
21:48:42.3 Schreibe  1747691 Vorfelder (2)
21:51:38.2 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (1)
21:51:38.2 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (2)
21:51:38.3 Schreibe  0 Rollwege (3)
21:51:38.4 Committing Airport changes
21:51:38.4 Scanne earth_nav.dat
21:51:38.4 Decoding X:\x-plane10\Resources\default data\earth_nav.dat
21:51:38.4 PC format
[...]

after moving the map, gplan is crashing again.

21:56:56.3 Starting Plan-G (W7 edition), build 3.1.4.120
21:56:56.3 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0
21:56:56.4 InitDataFolder
21:56:56.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
21:56:56.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
21:56:56.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
21:56:56.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
21:56:56.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
21:56:56.5 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
21:56:56.5 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
21:56:57.1 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\game\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
21:56:57.3 Program in: D:\xplane\Plan-G
21:56:57.3 Data in: C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files
21:56:57.3 IsDataLoaded: FSX
21:56:57.3 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
21:56:57.4 IsDataLoaded: FS9
21:56:57.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
21:56:57.4 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
21:56:57.4 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
21:56:57.4 Starting timer
21:56:57.4 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
21:56:57.4 Metar18Z.TXT started
21:56:57.4 Metar19Z.TXT started
21:56:57.8 IsDataLoaded: FSX
21:56:57.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
21:56:57.8 IsDataLoaded: FS9
21:56:57.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
21:56:57.8 IsDataLoaded: P3D
21:56:57.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
21:56:57.8 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
21:56:57.8 Data Source = C:\Users\game\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
21:56:59.9 Stopping timer
21:56:59.9 StartMap
21:56:59.9 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf'
21:57:00.3 NdbsInBounds 7
21:57:00.3 VorsInBounds 3
21:57:00.5 AirportsInBounds 17
21:57:00.6 Metar18Z.TXT done
21:57:00.7 Metar19Z.TXT done
21:57:00.7 DownloadCurrentMetars done
21:57:00.8 AirspaceInBounds 19
21:57:00.8 NdbsInBounds 7
21:57:00.9 VorsInBounds 3
21:57:00.9 AirportsInBounds 17
21:57:00.9 AirspaceInBounds 19
21:57:01.4 ProcessMetars done
21:57:04.2 NdbsInBounds 15
21:57:04.2 VorsInBounds 11
21:57:04.2 AirportsInBounds 35
21:57:04.5 AirspaceInBounds 49
21:57:05.9 NdbsInBounds 19
21:57:05.9 VorsInBounds 13
21:57:06.0 AirportsInBounds 49
21:57:06.2 AirspaceInBounds 57
21:57:08.0 NdbsInBounds 15
21:57:08.0 VorsInBounds 11
21:57:08.1 AirportsInBounds 55
21:57:08.2 AirspaceInBounds 56


fresh install on win10 xplane10.51r2 gplan3.1.3.113 seems to hang after generating data.
next programm-start is crasing.
there are "input has wrong format" log messages:

18:59:04.0 Error processing earth_nav.dat.: 6  28.27461100  068.45741900    185        10  300327.389 MCCT OPJA 33  GS
System.FormatException: Die Eingabezeichenfolge hat das falsche Format.
   bei System.Number.ParseSingle(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
   bei System.Single.Parse(String s, IFormatProvider provider)
   bei Plan_G3.Data.XPlaneDB.readNavaids()
18:59:04.0 Error processing earth_nav.dat.: 6  22.74861100  121.09566700    143        10  300038.513 MFNN RCFN 04  GS
System.FormatException: Die Eingabezeichenfolge hat das falsche Format.
   bei System.Number.ParseSingle(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
   bei System.Single.Parse(String s, IFormatProvider provider)
   bei Plan_G3.Data.XPlaneDB.readNavaids()
18:59:04.0 Error processing earth_nav.dat.: 6  24.01447200  121.61319400     52        10  320026.187  RCYU 03  GS
System.FormatException: Die Eingabezeichenfolge hat das falsche Format.
   bei System.Number.ParseSingle(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt)
   bei System.Single.Parse(String s, IFormatProvider provider)
   bei Plan_G3.Data.XPlaneDB.readNavaids()


Quote from: JessicaLampe on June 27, 2015, 10:24:56 AMHere is the file of the German Traffic Circuits f.e.:
http://www.vlflugzeuge.de/Dateien/Platzrunden.txt

and here is a more technically description:
http://www.winpilot.com/usersguide/userairspace.asp

the link should not include the dot http://www.navaid.com/GPX., so http://www.navaid.com/GPX/ should work.
thank you very much for this great googlemap. may i add romeo1 to eddf?

QuoteYou are free to copy, distribute, transmit and adapt our maps and data, as long as you credit OpenAviationMap and its contributors. If you alter or build upon our maps or data, you may distribute the result only under the same licence.

are you sure?
other users create a CSV-file an post the file to this forum.
if we put a link to the license, it should be okay (in my opinion).

Zumindest für Innsbruck scheinen die PMP nicht mehr gültig zu sein:
http://charts.vacc-austria.org/LOWI/LOWI_VFR_VFR%20Chart_15082012.pdf

OpenStreatMap is a great tool to get allways actual data.
the same is available for airspaces at http://openaviationmap.org/
does anybody know how to import these data to plan-g?