Tintin, this might be the same problem I had.

http://www.tasoftware.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2717.0

That did it, Tim. I backed up the original PlanG3_FSX.sdf, made a copy of PlanG3_P3D.sdf, renamed it PlanG3_FSX.sdf and everything is working fine now. I imagine that with the gathering migration to P3D, this query may well pop up again.

Thanks for your help.  :)

PLan G Version 3.1.0.82

I've just installed this version of Plan G, to use with P3D V2.1.9936.0 on the same computer. All seemed to go normally during installation, and I've built the database for P3D successfully. However, I'm now stuck at that point - all the ribbon menus are greyed out and clicking on the File tab at the left edge does nothing - no response. I've also installed the same version of PLan G on my lap top, in readiness to network it to P3D, and the same problem exists - ribbon menus greyed out, and clicking on the File tab produces no result.

Here's a screenshot of things as they stand, and this is the same situation on both computers:



Any help gratefully received. Never had anything like this problem when running Plan G before, with FSX.

EDIT: Just to clarify the problem, its not the ribbon menus that are greyed out - I can't even get to them. Its the tabs along the top ( i.e. Home, Map and View ) that are greyed out and unresponsive.

Quote from: tim arnot on October 05, 2013, 09:12:10 AM
You'll need to wait until America puts another shilling in the meter, sorry.

:laugh: :laugh:

Tim, sorry I didn't post this sooner...haven't been simming much and have been abroad on holiday...

Just to say thanks very much for the new build of Plan 9 which has sorted out the ADF / FSUIPC problem. I've just made a donation by way of thanks for your hard work, so have a couple of pints on me.  ;D

Regards
Paul Kirkland

Timmy74, as Tim Arnot says, Plan-G Files is created when you install Plan G, so you must have it somewhere. Where else would your database be ?  Run the installer again - its got to be there.

@Timmy74, if you have Windows 7, this is where you'll find it. Its in My Documents anyway...




@Tim Arnot...I don't suppose Plan-g Files could be a hidden folder on Timmy74's system, could it ?

Assuming you are using Windows 7, do a search, using Windows Explorer, for a folder called Plan-G Files on both your FSX computer and the laptop. It should be in the ' My Documents' folder on each machine. All the data you need is in the Plan-G Files folder. Simply copy and paste the Plan-G Files folder from the FSX computer to its corresponding location on the laptop, merging the folder if prompted. Simple as that. No matter if you are using Vista or whatever - it's still Plan-G Files you need to look for and copy across

There is a great utility called SyncToy by Microsoft, which I use. It synchronizes pair of folders both on the same computer and across a network, so any changes I make to the contents of Plan-G Files on my FSX computer is then sent across to my laptop at the press of a button.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=15155

Build the data base on Comp A and then simply copy it across to Comp B.  Thats what I always do.

Ah okay, thanks Tim.  :)

Well done that man !!  ;D

Tim, what, in layman's terms, is causing it to happen ?

Quote from: tim arnot on August 15, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
Does it also crash if you connect through FSUIPC on the same computer as FS (i.e., without using WideFS)?

Yes it does, Tim.. When I have just the FSX computer running ( i.e. laptop shut down ), and the FSX computer's copy of Plan G connected to FSX via FSUIPC, the same problem arises. I've tried several combinations of actions, for example connecting with pipe, then disconnecting and reconnecting with FSUIPC...connecting with FSUIPC first...but the same result; Plan G stops working.

I also wondered whether it might be the result of having Plan G running on both the FSX PC and laptop at the same time, but no...whether its just running on the FSX PC, or just on the laptop, or running on both, it stops working.

Presumably, since the problem exists on both the FSX computer and the networked laptop, its not a problem with the Wide server or WideFS client.

And why does it happen only when clicking in the ADF frequency panel ? I'm trying to see if there is some setting in the FSUIPC Options and Settings window ( the one you can bring up while in the sim ) that is specific to the ADF...

Just for further info, Tim, I've installed the latest version of Plan G ( version 3.0.5.61 ) on both FSX PC and the networked laptop and still the same problem I'm afraid. Everything is fine till I click on the ADF frequency on both computers when connected to FSX with FSUIPC  and Wide Client & WideFS

Thanks, Tim  :)

Hi gents,

OKay, I have run PLan G again, both on the same computer as FSX and on a networked laptop, and still the problem arises. Unfortunately, nothing futher is written to the Plan-G_log.txt once the lock up occurs. I am using FSUIPC version 4.91 and Plan-G version 3.0.4.59. Anyway, here are the log files, with REM statements for clarity. Firstly, FSX and Plan G on the same PC ( I used Simconnect first, then FSUIPC )...

// This is Plan G running on the same PC as FSX

13:14:29.0 Cleanup
13:14:46.4

---===+++===---

13:14:46.4 Starting Plan-G, build 3.0.4.59
13:14:46.4 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
13:14:46.5 InitDataFolder
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
13:14:46.5 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
13:14:47.2 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
13:14:47.3 Program in: C:\Program Files (x86)\TA Software\Plan-G v3
13:14:47.3 Data in: C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files
13:14:47.3 IsDataLoaded: FSX
13:14:47.3 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:14:47.4 Starting timer
13:14:47.4 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
13:14:47.4 Metar11Z.TXT started
13:14:47.4 sTAF12Z.TXT started
13:14:47.4 Metar12Z.TXT started
13:14:47.5 lTAF06Z.TXT started
13:14:47.5 sTAF06Z.TXT started
13:14:47.5 lTAF12Z.TXT started
13:14:47.7 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf'
13:14:48.0 NdbsInBounds 18
13:14:48.1 lTAF12Z.TXT done
13:14:48.1 VorsInBounds 64
13:14:48.2 sTAF06Z.TXT done
13:14:48.2 sTAF12Z.TXT done
13:14:48.4 AirportsInBounds 308
13:14:48.5 lTAF06Z.TXT done
13:14:48.7 AirspaceInBounds 306
13:14:49.2 IsDataLoaded: FSX
13:14:49.2 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:14:49.2 IsDataLoaded: FS9
13:14:49.2 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
13:14:49.2 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
13:14:49.2 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
13:14:49.3 NdbsInBounds 20
13:14:49.3 VorsInBounds 57
13:14:49.4 AirportsInBounds 329
13:14:49.5 AirspaceInBounds 275
13:14:49.7 NdbsInBounds 21
13:14:49.7 VorsInBounds 59
13:14:49.8 AirportsInBounds 341
13:14:49.9 AirspaceInBounds 299
13:14:49.9 Stopping timer
13:14:49.9 StartMap
13:14:50.2 NdbsInBounds 22
13:14:50.2 VorsInBounds 59
13:14:50.3 AirportsInBounds 345
13:14:50.4 Metar12Z.TXT done
13:14:50.6 AirspaceInBounds 286
13:14:50.7 NdbsInBounds 22
13:14:50.7 VorsInBounds 59
13:14:50.8 AirportsInBounds 345
13:14:50.9 AirspaceInBounds 286
13:14:50.9 Metar11Z.TXT done
13:14:50.9 DownloadCurrentMetars done
13:14:51.4 ProcessMetars done
13:14:54.8 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
13:15:02.8 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False

// I now connect using Simconnect


13:16:20.0 Initiating SimConnect connection.
13:16:20.0 Connect
13:16:20.0 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = Pipe Server = localhost Port =
13:16:20.0 sc_OnRecvOpen Connected to FSX
13:16:20.0 Connected to sim
13:16:20.1 Traffic update:48 planes
13:16:20.3 Transponder: 4608

// Everything ok so far. I now DISCONNECT, change the connection from Simconnect to FSUIPC, and reconnect.



13:18:50.1 Traffic update:48 planes
13:18:57.6 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
13:18:59.3 Disconnect
13:19:00.3 Disconnected from sim
13:19:03.3 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
13:19:13.4 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
13:19:15.5 Initiating FSUIPC/XPUIPC connection.
13:19:15.5 FSUIPC/XPUIPC.Connect
13:19:15.6 FSUIPC Connected to FSX
13:19:15.8 Connected to sim
13:19:15.8 Transponder: 4608
13:19:17.0 Traffic update:1 planes
13:19:17.8 Traffic update:2 planes
13:19:18.5 Traffic update:3 planes
13:19:19.3 Traffic update:4 planes
13:19:20.1 Traffic update:5 planes
13:19:20.8 Traffic update:6 planes
13:19:21.6 Traffic update:7 planes
13:19:22.7 Traffic update:8 planes

// I now start clicking in the ADF panel in the radio stack...





As you can see, nothing further is written after Plan G locks up


Okay, here is the log file with Plan G on the lap top using Wide FS to connect to FSUIPC on the FSX desktop...

//This is Plan G running on a lap top, connecting to the FSX PC using Wide FS and FSUIPC


13:24:14.5

---===+++===---

13:24:14.5 Starting Plan-G, build 3.0.4.59
13:24:14.5 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
13:24:15.0 InitDataFolder
13:24:15.0 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:24:15.0 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
13:24:15.0 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
13:24:15.0 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
13:24:15.0 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
13:24:15.1 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
13:24:16.4 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\Paul\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
13:24:16.6 Program in: C:\Program Files (x86)\TA Software\Plan-G v3
13:24:16.6 Data in: C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files
13:24:16.6 IsDataLoaded: FSX
13:24:16.6 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:24:44.6 CheckCurrentVersion: System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (401) Unauthorized.
   at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadDataInternal(Uri address, WebRequest& request)
   at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadData(Uri address)
   at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadData(String address)
   at Plan_G3.Model.UTIL.CheckCurrentVersion() in C:\Users\Tim\Documents\Visual Studio 2010\Projects\Plan-G3\Plan-G3\Model\UTIL.cs:line 38
13:24:44.6 Starting timer
13:24:44.7 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
13:24:44.7 lTAF06Z.TXT started
13:24:44.7 Metar12Z.TXT started
13:24:44.7 Metar11Z.TXT started
13:24:44.7 sTAF12Z.TXT started
13:24:44.9 sTAF12Z.TXT done
13:24:44.9 lTAF12Z.TXT started
13:24:45.1 lTAF12Z.TXT done
13:24:45.1 sTAF06Z.TXT started
13:24:45.3 sTAF06Z.TXT done
13:24:45.3 lTAF06Z.TXT done
13:24:45.4 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf'
13:24:46.5 NdbsInBounds 1
13:24:46.6 VorsInBounds 1
13:24:47.0 AirportsInBounds 8
13:24:47.1 AirspaceInBounds 19
13:24:47.3 IsDataLoaded: FSX
13:24:47.3 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
13:24:47.3 Metar11Z.TXT done
13:24:47.3 IsDataLoaded: FS9
13:24:47.3 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
13:24:47.4 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
13:24:47.4 Data Source = C:\Users\Paul\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
13:24:47.4 Metar12Z.TXT done
13:24:47.4 DownloadCurrentMetars done
13:24:47.6 NdbsInBounds 0
13:24:47.6 VorsInBounds 1
13:24:47.7 AirportsInBounds 9
13:24:47.8 AirspaceInBounds 18
13:24:47.9 Stopping timer
13:24:47.9 StartMap
13:24:48.0 NdbsInBounds 0
13:24:48.0 VorsInBounds 1
13:24:48.1 AirportsInBounds 9
13:24:48.3 AirspaceInBounds 18
13:24:48.3 NdbsInBounds 0
13:24:48.3 VorsInBounds 1
13:24:48.3 ProcessMetars done
13:24:48.4 AirportsInBounds 9
13:24:48.5 AirspaceInBounds 18
13:24:48.6 NdbsInBounds 0
13:24:48.6 VorsInBounds 1
13:24:48.6 AirportsInBounds 9
13:24:48.8 AirspaceInBounds 18

// I now connect Plan G on this laptop to FSX on the desktop, using WideFS


13:28:09.3 Initiating FSUIPC/XPUIPC connection.
13:28:09.3 FSUIPC/XPUIPC.Connect
13:28:09.5 FSUIPC Connected to FSX
13:28:09.5 Connected to sim
13:28:09.6 Transponder: 4608
13:28:10.6 Traffic update:1 planes
13:28:12.0 Traffic update:2 planes
13:28:13.0 Traffic update:3 planes
13:28:13.6 Traffic update:4 planes
13:28:13.9 Traffic update:5 planes
13:28:14.1 Traffic update:6 planes
13:28:14.5 Traffic update:7 planes
13:28:15.4 Traffic update:8 planes
13:28:16.4 Traffic update:9 planes
13:28:17.9 Traffic update:10 planes
13:28:19.4 Traffic update:11 planes
13:28:20.1 Traffic update:12 planes
13:28:21.2 Traffic update:13 planes


// Everything works fine, so I now start clicking in the ADF window in the radio stack...


Again, Plan G stops working, Windows offers to search for a fix which it can't find, etc etc

Hope this is of help. By the way, I can change the ADF frequency in the FSX aircraft, and that change appears in the Plan G radio stack without any problem. Its trying to do it the other way that doesn't work.