Simconnect timeout again

[lvflyer]

Thanks for this great program, but run into a snag.  A month ago everything worked fine, but haven't used it till I installed the new update 2.03.  Now I can't connect across network as I have before.  Two days of research and no joy. 
FSX flying on XP Pro SP3
Plan G on laptop XP Home
Connects OK on flying computer but won't across network

Connected by Simconnect IPv4 through E1000 router.  No firewall or virus checkers on anything.
Changes in last month.  Install VRS Superbug, AICarriers2, Arrestor Cables, COP3
Had to replace router that was lynksys modified with tomato now is cisco E1000 no mods all firewall off and port 4506 forwards both.

paste of simconnect.xml
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="SimConnect" version="1,0">
<Descr>SimConnect</Descr>
<Filename>SimConnect.xml</Filename>
<SimConnect.Comm>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Protocol>IPv4</Protocol>
<Scope>global</Scope>
<Address>192.168.1.100</Address>
<MaxClients>64</MaxClients>
<Port>4506</Port>
<MaxRecvSize>4096</MaxRecvSize>
<DisableNagle>False</DisableNagle>
</SimConnect.Comm>

I tried using computer name also, but didn't use //, should I?

Setup in Plan-G is IPv4, 192.168.1.100, 4506

Error is Unable to connect with timeout.  I see no attempts made through router on port 4506 and see nothing in plan g log except remote connection timed out and nothing in simconnect log set on error or normal or verbose.

I attempted to connect from another laptop that had not been modified since it worked and still had version .9 on it and it gave same error.  So I assume it is not the Plan G installation it is something in between.  I suspect something on my router isn't set correctly so what am I missing?  One connection attempt was wireless and the other hardwired.

I tried a netstat -ao | find/i "established" and other forms of netstat and didn't see any indication that simconnect was listening on port 4506.  I don't know if I should though.

Any ideas?

[lvflyer]

One more thing.  I deleted the loopback adapter on all my computers.  Would that make a difference.  I installed it for using FSINN, but I don't use that anymore.

[tim arnot]

If you've changed routers, double check the IP address assignments. Your FS PC ideally needs to have a reserved address, and you need to set that up in the router (otherwise it will change every time you restart).

[lvflyer]

yes it has been static at 192.168.1.100.  I also attempted to disable NAT and that didn't work.  I ran a Net Activity checker on both the desktop and the laptop while launching Plan G and saw no activity on port 4506.  I also used PFChecker on desktop with router set to forward port 4506 to desktop it showed open and then checked laptop without changing router and the port showed closed so ran PFChecker on laptop after forwarding port to laptop, which also has a static IP and it showed open.  So I can get from the outside to both computers, but not to each computer on that port.  What should I see in the simconnect log file when I start FSX?  I don't see anything about simconnect.xml even being recognized.  Also when I run netstat -ao | find/i I don't see any listening being done on port 4506 on the desktop.  Should I when FSX is running?  I'm going to try to set up connection between laptops and see if it works.  I'll let you know, but in the meantime if you can paste typical log files so I can compare maybe I can figure this out.

[tim arnot]

From a session yesterday (laptop downstairs connecting to an already started flight upstairs). The only change I've made to the default router and firewall settings is to reserve the IP addresses of the PCs. No opened ports or other faffing. Win7/64 at both ends. Network is cabled, with a Netgear 8-port gigabit ethernet switch both upstairs and downstairs (so the connection is via two switches).

14:08:50.2 WxTimer_Tick
14:20:16.3 RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
14:20:16.3 SimConnect.Connect
14:20:16.3 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = 192.168.0.5 Port = 4504
14:20:16.4 Connected to FSX
14:20:16.6 Wheels up at: 14:20 UTC
14:20:16.6 Brakes off time: 14:20 UTC
14:20:16.6 MEF: 0
14:20:16.6 MEF: 1000
14:20:16.6 MEF: 1000
14:20:16.6 MEF: 1400
14:20:16.6 MEF: 1400
14:20:16.6 MEF: 500
14:20:16.6 MEF: 300
14:20:16.6 MEF: 300
14:20:16.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = -21.2433024197319 s = -23.0721513101029 w = 148.290710449219 e = 151.682739257813 Zoom = 9
14:20:16.8 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
14:20:16.9   Airspace
14:20:17.0 GetAirspaceInBounds retrieved 9 boundaries
14:20:17.0 Plot ICAO Airspace. 9/0 boundaries
14:20:17.0 Plot Restricted Airspace. 12 boundaries
14:20:17.1 Plot SUA2 Airspace. 1 boundaries
14:20:17.1   NDBs
14:20:17.3   VORs
14:20:17.3   Airports
14:20:17.4 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 3 airports.
14:20:17.4 Plotting . 3/0 Medium airports
14:20:19.9   ISECs
14:20:19.9   UWpts
14:20:20.1   done
14:20:20.1 WEATHER OBSERVATION: %sYBMK&A5 030619Z 16915KT&D579NG 18422KT&A1793NG 16325G33KT&A6091NG 16KM&B-5&D3048 8CU026&CU001FLMR000N 6CI393&CI001FNMN000N 26/20 13/06&A2433 05/01&A4109 -4/-14&A5481 Q1011 @@@ 59 18 184 22 | 200 -4 163 25 |

[lvflyer]

OK here is log from three different computers.  First Plan G log with FSX on desktop 192.168.1.100 and Plan G on laptop 192.168.1.130

09:52:51.5 Window_Loaded
09:52:51.8 SetInitialControlStates
09:52:52.2 Checking DEM availability
09:52:52.2 FS9 is installed
09:52:52.2 FSX is installed
09:52:52.2 Checking FSX database built status
09:52:53.2 IsDataLoaded: True
09:52:53.2 Data Source = C:\TA Software\Plan-G v2\Data\PlanG_FSX.sdf
09:52:56.2 FSX database is built
09:52:56.2 Checking FS9 database built status
09:52:56.2 IsDataLoaded: False
09:52:56.2 Data Source = C:\TA Software\Plan-G v2\Data\PlanG_FS9.sdf
09:52:56.3 Setting ribbon group
09:52:56.3 Setting db button states
09:52:56.3 Selected data set is FSX
09:52:56.7 SetInitialControlStates done
09:52:56.7 SetTheme Blue
09:52:57.0 Checking Internet available
09:52:57.9 Setting MRU
09:52:58.0 Opening map
09:52:58.1 Starting timers
09:52:58.2 Window_Loaded done
09:53:02.9  DEBUG: Aircraft
09:53:03.0 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
09:53:03.2 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 18.4275019719486 s = 17.4266491697257 w = -63.28125 e = -61.6195678710938 Zoom = 10
09:53:03.2 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 18.4275019719486 s = 17.4266491697257 w = -63.28125 e = -61.6195678710938 Zoom = 10
09:53:03.2 --> Zoom Still
09:53:03.2 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
09:53:03.2 No plan - erasing line
09:53:05.4 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
09:53:05.4   Airspace
09:53:05.4 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
09:53:05.4   NDBs
09:53:05.4   VORs
09:53:05.7   Airports
09:53:15.0 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 9 airports.
09:53:15.0 Plotting . 5/0 Medium airports
09:53:15.3 WxTimer_Tick
09:53:15.4 Checking for updates
09:53:15.4 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
09:53:15.7 Metar14Z.TXT started
09:53:15.7 lTAF06Z.TXT started
09:53:15.7 Metar15Z.TXT started
09:53:16.4 This build: 486 Latest build: 486
09:53:16.4   ISECs
09:53:16.4   UWpts
09:53:16.4   done
09:53:16.4 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
09:53:16.4 No plan - erasing line
09:53:16.6 sTAF12Z.TXT started
09:53:16.9 sTAF12Z.TXT done
09:53:16.9 lTAF12Z.TXT started
09:53:17.0 lTAF06Z.TXT done
09:53:17.0 sTAF06Z.TXT started
09:53:17.7 sTAF06Z.TXT done
09:53:18.4 lTAF12Z.TXT done
09:53:20.9 Metar15Z.TXT done
09:53:21.2 Metar14Z.TXT done
09:53:21.2 DownloadCurrentMetars done
09:53:22.4 ProcessMetars done
09:53:28.7 RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
09:53:28.8 SimConnect.Connect
09:53:28.8 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = 192.168.1.100 Port = 4506
09:53:49.2 SimConnect remote connection timed out
09:53:49.2 SimConnect.Disconnect
09:53:50.3  DEBUG: removeUserAircraft
09:53:50.3  DEBUG: removeAIAircraft


Now with Plan G on desktop with FSX on desktop

10:00:05.7
10:00:05.7 ---===+++===---
10:00:05.7 Starting Plan-G, build 2.0.2.481
10:00:05.7 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
10:00:05.7 Location is
10:00:07.9 Window_Loaded
10:00:08.0 SetInitialControlStates
10:00:08.1 Checking DEM availability
10:00:08.1 FS9 is installed
10:00:08.1 FSX is installed
10:00:08.1 Checking FSX database built status
10:00:08.5 IsDataLoaded: True
10:00:08.5 Data Source = C:\TA Software\Plan-G v2\Data\PlanG_FSX.sdf
10:00:09.4 FSX database is built
10:00:09.4 Checking FS9 database built status
10:00:09.4 IsDataLoaded: False
10:00:09.4 Data Source = C:\TA Software\Plan-G v2\Data\PlanG_FS9.sdf
10:00:09.5 Setting ribbon group
10:00:09.5 Setting db button states
10:00:09.5 Selected data set is FSX
10:00:09.6 SetInitialControlStates done
10:00:09.6 SetTheme Blue
10:00:09.7 Checking Internet available
10:00:11.0 Setting MRU
10:00:11.0 Opening map
10:00:11.0 Starting timers
10:00:11.0 Window_Loaded done
10:00:12.5  DEBUG: Aircraft
10:00:12.6 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
10:00:12.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 38.8739285392363 s = 33.7152016447408 w = -124.288330078125 e = -115.587158203125 Zoom = 7
10:00:12.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 38.8739285392363 s = 33.7152016447408 w = -124.288330078125 e = -115.587158203125 Zoom = 7
10:00:12.8 --> Zoom Still
10:00:12.8 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
10:00:12.8 No plan - erasing line
10:00:14.0 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
10:00:14.0   Airspace
10:00:14.1   NDBs
10:00:14.1   VORs
10:00:14.5   Airports
10:00:18.9 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 428 airports.
10:00:18.9 Plotting . 28/0 Large airports
10:00:19.4 RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
10:00:19.4 SimConnect.Connect
10:00:19.4 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = localhost Port = 0
10:00:19.7 Connected to FSX
10:00:19.7 Plotting . 251/0 Medium airports
10:00:21.1  DEBUG: Building encoded trail
10:00:21.1 WEATHER OBSERVATION: %sK4SU&A962 282022Z 00000KT&D0NG 100KM&B-2462&D6072 CLR 15/05 Q1013
10:00:21.9 WxTimer_Tick
10:00:21.9 Checking for updates
10:00:21.9 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
10:00:22.0 Metar15Z.TXT started
10:00:22.0 lTAF06Z.TXT started
10:00:22.0 Metar16Z.TXT started
10:00:22.0 sTAF12Z.TXT started
10:00:22.3 This build: 481 Latest build: 486
10:00:22.4 WEATHER OBSERVATION: %sK4SU&A962 282022Z 00000KT&D0NG 100KM&B-2462&D6072 CLR 15/05 Q1013
10:00:22.5 sTAF12Z.TXT done
10:00:22.5 lTAF12Z.TXT started
10:00:23.2 lTAF06Z.TXT done
10:00:23.2 sTAF06Z.TXT started
10:00:23.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:23.5 sTAF06Z.TXT done
10:00:23.7 lTAF12Z.TXT done
10:00:24.3 Metar16Z.TXT done
10:00:24.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:25.0   ISECs
10:00:27.1 Metar15Z.TXT done
10:00:27.1 DownloadCurrentMetars done
10:00:27.7 ProcessMetars done
10:00:34.8 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:36.0 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:37.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:38.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:55.0   UWpts
10:00:55.1   done
10:00:55.1 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
10:00:55.1 No plan - erasing line
10:00:56.4 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:57.6 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:00:59.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False
10:01:01.3 PlotAIAircraft: 2 acft. includeStationary = True plotTrail = False

FSX on desktop with Plan G on secondary laptop

10:03:38 AM PlanG constructor
10:03:38 AM executableFolder: C:\Plan G\Plan-G
10:03:39 AM Starting Plan-G, build 0.9.1.423
10:03:39 AM FS9 is installed
10:03:39 AM FSX is installed
10:03:39 AM FSX database is built
10:03:39 AM Selected data set is FSX
10:03:50 AM Starting map
10:03:50 AM Initialisation complete.
10:04:09 AM RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
10:04:09 AM SimConnect.Connect
10:04:09 AM SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = 192.168.1.100 Port = 4506
10:04:30 AM SimConnect remote connection timed out

Plan G on first laptop with FSX on secondary laptop

10:17:25.3 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 18.4275019719486 s = 17.4266491697257 w = -63.28125 e = -61.6195678710938 Zoom = 10
10:17:25.3 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
10:17:25.3   Airspace
10:17:25.3 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
10:17:25.3   NDBs
10:17:25.3   VORs
10:17:25.3   Airports
10:17:25.3 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 9 airports.
10:17:25.3   ISECs
10:17:25.3   UWpts
10:17:25.3   done
10:17:28.8 RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
10:17:28.8 SimConnect.Connect
10:17:28.8 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = 192.168.1.64 Port = 4506
10:17:48.8 SimConnect remote connection timed out
10:17:48.8 SimConnect.Disconnect
10:17:49.9  DEBUG: removeUserAircraft
10:17:49.9  DEBUG: removeAIAircraft

FSX on secondary laptop with Plan G on desktop

10:22:24.5 RibbonButton_Click_ConnectFS
10:22:24.5 SimConnect.Connect
10:22:24.5 SimConnect.Connect - Remote. Mode = IPv4 Server = 192.168.1.64 Port = 4506
10:22:44.5 SimConnect remote connection timed out
10:22:44.5 SimConnect.Disconnect
10:22:45.5  DEBUG: removeUserAircraft
10:22:45.5  DEBUG: removeAIAircraft

So it looks like the router is not allowing traffic on that port to pass through on the internal network, but it will pass outside the network.  Any clues?

[tim arnot]

Can you also post the Simconnect.xml files from the two FS PCs?
Thanks

[Renaissance_man]

I am still experiencing difficulties getting Plan-G to connect through a network. It eventually works bit takes many tries and a complete re-boot of both machines. The best recipe to make it work seems to re-boot both machines. Click on "Network" on each computer to connect them. Start FSX, and get into flight mode. Then start Plan-G. It never connects on my first try so I and get the timeout message. Then I turn off the airplane starter engine ( I have a Saitek mutli-panel switch). Plan-G gives me a message that it's no longer working and is forced to shut down. I reopen Plan-G and then and only then (with some luck) is connects. If I don't go through this procedure it doesn't work at all.

My connections settings are good and so is the syntax in the Sim Connect.xml - After all it does work when it wants to. I use IPv6 and have W7 on both machines. I was wondering if the option of using IPv4 or FSUIPC may solve the problem.

This software is an absolute pleasure - when it connects - and I would certainly have made a donation to reward the efforts of the author. But I am on a holding pattern...I am still wasting at least 45 minutes before the whole setup works.

I am a fair computer user but my networks knowledge is rather limited. I have dutifully followed the instructions provided. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[lvflyer]

Can you also post the Simconnect.xml files from the two FS PCs?
Thanks

simconnect.xml from PC where FSX is ran:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="SimConnect" version="1,0">
<Descr>SimConnect</Descr>
<Filename>SimConnect.xml</Filename>
<SimConnect.Comm>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Protocol>IPv4</Protocol>
<Scope>global</Scope>
<Address>192.168.1.100</Address>
<MaxClients>64</MaxClients>
<Port>4506</Port>
<MaxRecvSize>4096</MaxRecvSize>
<DisableNagle>False</DisableNagle>
</SimConnect.Comm>


<SimConnect.Comm>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Protocol>Auto</Protocol>
<Scope>local</Scope>
</SimConnect.Comm>
</SimBase.Document>

simconnect.xml from laptop 2 used to test connection from laptop 1 used for Plan G:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252"?>
<SimBase.Document Type="SimConnect" version="1,0">
<Descr>SimConnect</Descr>
<Filename>SimConnect.xml</Filename>
<SimConnect.Comm>
<Disabled>False</Disabled>
<Protocol>IPv4</Protocol>
<Scope>global</Scope>
<Address>192.168.1.64</Address>
<MaxClients>64</MaxClients>
<Port>4506</Port>
<MaxRecvSize>4096</MaxRecvSize>
<DisableNagle>False</DisableNagle>
</SimConnect.Comm>

[tim arnot]

The numbers look okay. I think we have to explore the possibility that something external (firewall, AV etc ) is blocking it.

[tim arnot]

Cavalier,
I can't imagine why switching the engines on or off should make the slightest difference. Did you try the things suggested in your other thread? If so what was the result? You stated that your LAN IP addresses were assigned externally by your cable provider. This is definitely a very strange way of going about things, and I can't help but wonder if it has something to do with the problem (I wonder what else they are doing to your network...).