Can't see MP icons (FSX)

[lvflyer]

Same issues on laptop ,but not on desktop

[lvflyer]

Along these lines.  I too use XP Pro 32Bit on both desktop and laptop.  I connect with desktop form laptop with simconnect.

When 2.0 is first launched the upper menu does not appear till you point your mouse to it.  That is on both the laptop and the desktop.  ON my laptop the upper buttons do not work and I have to right mouse on the task bar below in order to minimize.  Connected to Gamespy mulitplayer in FSX it does not display all the players, only the host and myself.  Turn of breadcrumbs and all show up.  It's nice to have trace though.  Also it crashes for no reason and wants to send error report to Microsoft and then you have to close and restart.  This happened 8 or 9 times in 5 hours session.  I also do not have the option to expand the window at the lower right, but do at the upper right.  It also crashed one time when I was resizing the window.

[tim arnot]

Are you using the "Classic" theme? Or one of the standard ones?

[lvflyer]

Using whatever came up default.  I don't see anywhere I can change themes.  I am using version 2.0.1.474 on both desktop and laptop.  The view on the laptop is set to windowed mode and the view on desktop is set to full screen.  When the view on the deskto firt loads it only displys the map and parts of the expansion area and the menu.  After awhile it will fill in or if I move my mouse over the missing areas it will fill in.  When I looked for the themes settings on the laptop I opened up the GPS settings and it froze after attempting to change the maximum speed.  I fly military so it is over 1000knots.  None of the buttons worked and in fact the mouse pointer would not show when it was over the Plan-G window.  The only way to shut it down was to right click on the taskbar.  I relaunched again on laptop and went to same settings and the mouse pointer disappeared for a period and then came back after a minute.   On the laptop the mouseovers work on all but the upper right area where the minimize, full page, close, ?, and minimize ribbon buttons are.  None work when clicked.  when minimized or maximized.  I can only control window by right clicking on task bar.  Peculiar thing is in full screen when I click on a menu item it reverts to windowed mode. The crashes occur randomly and are the "we are sorry can we send to MS" type.  It says EventType: clr20r3  P1: plang.exe P2: 2.0.1.474 P3: 4c1415f6 P4: fluent P5: 2.0.0.0 P6: 4cee9e4d P7: 5co P813a P9: system.nullreferenceexception

I just attempted to repeat the crash and was able to trigger it.  When Plan-G is in windowed mode you can only see the mouse window size control when you point to the upper and left sides, but when you point to the lower it is not there and when you point to the right side it crashes after awhile.  I think it has to do with the mouseovers.

Plan-g.txt below for this morning sessions on laptop:
10:56:35.4
10:56:35.4 ---===+++===---
10:56:35.4 Starting Plan-G, build 2.0.1.474
10:56:35.4 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
10:56:46.0 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 416 Height = 361.6
10:56:46.4 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 422.4 Height = 387.2
10:56:47.3 FS9 is installed
10:56:47.3 FSX is installed
10:56:52.5 FSX database is built
10:56:52.6 Selected data set is FSX
10:56:55.7 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 452.8 Height = 543.2
10:56:58.3  DEBUG: Aircraft
10:56:58.5 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
10:56:59.0 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.8220636965009 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 68.0328369140625 Zoom = 8
10:56:59.1 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.8220636965009 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 68.0328369140625 Zoom = 8
10:56:59.1 --> Zoom Still
10:56:59.1 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
10:56:59.1 DisplayFlightPlanDetail. Elevation.IsAvailable = False
10:56:59.1 No plan - erasing line
10:56:59.1  DEBUG: plotFlightPlanObj
10:56:59.1  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan
10:56:59.1  DEBUG: clearing plan markers.
10:56:59.1  DEBUG: clearPlanApproaches.
10:56:59.1  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan done.
10:57:01.7 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
10:57:01.7   Airspace
10:57:02.5 GetAirspaceInBounds retrieved 2 boundaries
10:57:02.5 Plot ICAO Airspace. 2/0 boundaries
10:57:02.6 Plot Restricted Airspace. 3 boundaries
10:57:02.7 Clear Centre Airspace.
10:57:02.7   NDBs
10:57:02.7   VORs
10:57:02.9   Airports
10:57:17.8 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 2 airports.
10:57:17.8 Plotting . 1/0 Large airports
10:57:18.8 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
10:57:19.1 lTAF06Z.TXT started
10:57:19.1 Metar15Z.TXT started
10:57:19.1 Metar16Z.TXT started
10:57:20.0 sTAF12Z.TXT started
10:57:20.4 lTAF06Z.TXT done
10:57:20.4 sTAF06Z.TXT started
10:57:20.5 sTAF12Z.TXT done
10:57:20.5 lTAF12Z.TXT started
10:57:20.8 sTAF06Z.TXT done
10:57:21.1 Plotting . 1/0 Medium airports
10:57:21.2   ISECs
10:57:22.3 lTAF12Z.TXT done
10:57:24.4   UWpts
10:57:24.8   done
10:57:24.8 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
10:57:24.8 DisplayFlightPlanDetail. Elevation.IsAvailable = False
10:57:24.8 No plan - erasing line
10:57:24.8  DEBUG: plotFlightPlanObj
10:57:24.8  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan
10:57:24.8  DEBUG: clearing plan markers.
10:57:24.8  DEBUG: clearPlanApproaches.
10:57:24.8  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan done.
10:57:25.1 Metar16Z.TXT done
10:57:25.9 Metar15Z.TXT done
10:57:25.9 DownloadCurrentMetars done
10:57:27.1 ProcessMetars done
11:09:51.0
11:09:51.1 ---===+++===---
11:09:51.1 Starting Plan-G, build 2.0.1.474
11:09:51.1 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
11:09:51.9 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 416 Height = 361.6
11:09:52.0 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 422.4 Height = 387.2
11:09:52.2 FS9 is installed
11:09:52.2 FSX is installed
11:09:54.5 FSX database is built
11:09:54.6 Selected data set is FSX
11:11:34.2 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 452.8 Height = 543.2
11:11:47.6  DEBUG: Aircraft
11:11:47.7 Clear all Airspace. (ClearAirspaceBoundaries)
11:11:47.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.8220636965009 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 68.0328369140625 Zoom = 8
11:11:47.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.8220636965009 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 68.0328369140625 Zoom = 8
11:11:47.8 --> Zoom Still
11:11:47.8 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
11:11:47.8 DisplayFlightPlanDetail. Elevation.IsAvailable = False
11:11:47.8 No plan - erasing line
11:11:47.8  DEBUG: plotFlightPlanObj
11:11:47.8  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan
11:11:47.8  DEBUG: clearing plan markers.
11:11:47.8  DEBUG: clearPlanApproaches.
11:11:47.8  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan done.
11:11:48.0 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
11:11:48.0 Metar16Z.TXT started
11:11:48.0 Metar17Z.TXT started
11:11:48.0 lTAF12Z.TXT started
11:11:48.5 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
11:11:48.5   Airspace
11:11:49.5 GetAirspaceInBounds retrieved 2 boundaries
11:11:49.5 Plot ICAO Airspace. 2/0 boundaries
11:11:49.6 Plot Restricted Airspace. 3 boundaries
11:11:49.6 Clear Centre Airspace.
11:11:49.6   NDBs
11:11:49.6   VORs
11:11:49.8 sTAF18Z.TXT started
11:11:49.8   Airports
11:11:49.8 lTAF12Z.TXT done
11:11:49.8 sTAF12Z.TXT started
11:11:49.9 sTAF18Z.TXT done
11:11:49.9 lTAF18Z.TXT started
11:11:50.0 lTAF18Z.TXT done
11:11:50.2 sTAF12Z.TXT done
11:11:51.7 Metar17Z.TXT done
11:11:54.3 Metar16Z.TXT done
11:11:54.3 DownloadCurrentMetars done
11:11:55.1 ProcessMetars done
11:11:56.4 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 2 airports.
11:11:56.4 Plotting . 1/0 Large airports
11:11:56.5 Plotting . 1/0 Medium airports
11:11:56.6   ISECs
11:11:59.2   UWpts
11:11:59.6   done
11:11:59.6 DrawFlightPlan. MoveMap = False nodes = 0
11:11:59.6 DisplayFlightPlanDetail. Elevation.IsAvailable = False
11:11:59.6 No plan - erasing line
11:11:59.6  DEBUG: plotFlightPlanObj
11:11:59.6  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan
11:11:59.6  DEBUG: clearing plan markers.
11:11:59.6  DEBUG: clearPlanApproaches.
11:11:59.6  DEBUG: clearFlightPlan done.
11:16:09.5 SizeChanged: W=724.8 H=724.8
11:16:09.5 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 1079.2 Height = 633.6
11:16:09.6 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.2875315892987 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 72.333984375 Zoom = 8
11:16:09.6 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
11:16:09.6   Airspace
11:16:09.6 GetAirspaceInBounds retrieved 5 boundaries
11:16:09.6 Plot ICAO Airspace. 3/2 boundaries
11:16:09.8 Plot Restricted Airspace. 27 boundaries
11:16:09.9 Clear Centre Airspace.
11:16:09.9   NDBs
11:16:09.9   VORs
11:16:10.0   Airports
11:16:10.1 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 21 airports.
11:16:10.1 Plotting . 2/1 Large airports
11:16:10.7 Plotting . 17/1 Medium airports
11:16:10.8   ISECs
11:16:11.3   UWpts
11:16:11.3   done
11:17:38.8 SizeChanged: W=724.8 H=724.8
11:17:38.8 webBrowser_SizeChanged. Width = 452.8 Height = 543.2
11:17:38.8 =====>> PlotOverlayElements. N = 33.9706979973616 s = 30.8220636965009 w = 64.9237060546875 e = 68.0328369140625 Zoom = 8
11:17:38.8 PlotOverlayElements - starting plot
11:17:38.8   Airspace
11:17:38.9 GetAirspaceInBounds retrieved 2 boundaries
11:17:39.0 Clear Centre Airspace.
11:17:39.0   NDBs
11:17:39.0   VORs
11:17:39.0   Airports
11:17:39.0 GetAirportsInBounds retrieved 2 airports.
11:17:39.0   ISECs
11:17:39.0   UWpts
11:17:39.0   done

[lvflyer]

I repaired Net Framework 4.0 on laptop and still exhibits same symptoms.  The only difference between laptop and desktop is desktop still using IE6 and laptop is XP Home with IE8.  Also did you know that the post reply window on this forum goes off the page making it difficult to see what you type on the right.  This is on desktop.

[tim arnot]

It says EventType: clr20r3  P1: plang.exe P2: 2.0.1.474 P3: 4c1415f6 P4: fluent P5: 2.0.0.0 P6: 4cee9e4d P7: 5co P813a P9: system.nullreferenceexception

Thank you, this is helpful. It suggests the problem may be in one of the third party libraries that Plan-G uses. Unfortunately, if this does turn out to be the case, it is not going to be a quick fix - looking at weeks rather than days.

As regards the forum reply box, what browser are you using? It should resize according to your window, and even on my phone it doesn't go off the page...

[lvflyer]

OK I just loaded 2.02 update hoping this would resolve issues and it didn't.  On desktop no problem so far, but on laptop, XP Home with IE8 the menus do not display on initial build and they won't until I move the mouse over their location or launch a data base build.  also the icons in the upper right still do not work. I'll do further testing on the window crashing if not full screen and will let you know.  The issue with this forum has to do with the frame where you type your post, like this one.  It runs off the page and you can't see the type on the far right for about 10 or 15 characters until you preview or submit.  This is using IE6, but it doesn't matter in other versions as well. 

[tim arnot]

The fact that you also have display problems with the forum suggests that the problem is not Plan-G, but something else connected with that particular PC. What is your graphics card, and are the drivers up to date? It may also be related to IE6, which was a "problem browser" and causes issues with a lot of sites and software.

[lvflyer]

I guess I didn't make myself clear.  I am typing on my desktop and experience no problems with Plan G on the desktop, but do have issue with forum display.  The laptop I have issues with Plan G and I did test the crashing, but with this version the following occurs.  When in windowed mode and I point the mouse at the right and lower edge the program will just quit without error, whereas before it gave an error.  It still does not allow changing of the size of the window from the right and bottom, but does from top or left side.

[lvflyer]

OK I removed IE8 from laptop and it did not correct mouseover issue.  Everything except the buttons above the menu on the far right work and the resize positions on the top, left, top/left corner, and top/right corner work.  The bottom and right sides of the window will not allow resizing.  What other program would I look for that has to to do with windows.  Also I wrote this on my laptop and I do experience the same issue with running this message off the page as I do on the desktop.  When you first click reply this box is the right size but as soon as you start typing it goes off the page.

[lvflyer]

Just got an error that may help when I was attempting to resize the window and ran the mouse across the plan g map on my laptop,  Maybe this will help.

Event Type:   Error
Event Source:   .NET Runtime
Event Category:   None
Event ID:   1026
Date:      12/16/2010
Time:      12:33:34 PM
User:      N/A
Computer:   ASUSLAP
Description:
Application: PlanG.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.NullReferenceException
Stack:
   at Fluent.RibbonWindow.DoHitTest(Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at Fluent.RibbonWindow.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.PublicHooksFilterMessage(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndWrapper.WndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr, Boolean ByRef)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.DispatcherCallbackOperation(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at MS.Internal.Threading.ExceptionFilterHelper.TryCatchWhen(System.Object, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32, System.Delegate)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.InvokeImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherPriority, System.TimeSpan, System.Delegate, System.Object, Int32)
   at MS.Win32.HwndSubclass.SubclassWndProc(IntPtr, Int32, IntPtr, IntPtr)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.IntGetMessageW(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef, System.Runtime.InteropServices.HandleRef, Int32, Int32)
   at MS.Win32.UnsafeNativeMethods.GetMessageW(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef, System.Runtime.InteropServices.HandleRef, Int32, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.GetMessage(System.Windows.Interop.MSG ByRef, IntPtr, Int32, Int32)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrameImpl(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.PushFrame(System.Windows.Threading.DispatcherFrame)
   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.Run()
   at System.Windows.Application.RunDispatcher(System.Object)
   at System.Windows.Application.RunInternal(System.Windows.Window)
   at System.Windows.Application.Run(System.Windows.Window)
   at PlanG._Main.Main()


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[tim arnot]

Thanks. That error is with a third party library. I shall pass on the report, but there's nothing I can do about it until they produce an update.

[lvflyer]

So what is different from my desktop with XPPro and IE6 and my laptop XP Home with IE6 that I can change so it doens't interfere with the third party library?

[tim arnot]

I have no idea, I'm afraid.

[lvflyer]

I don't know if this helps any, but I loaded another program that uses the same style window and GUI as Plan-G, O&O Defrag.  The window resizing and upper right icons ws work OK on it and the only difference is the red mouseover that you have on yours.  So as I see it the problem is not with the interaction of the window interface with the computer.unless the color has anything to do with it.