PlanG will not save flightplans.

[nojwod]

Have done a search and located some info here, followed suggestions but nothing works.   Tried re-installing the C++ X86 and 64 bit executables, no luck.  Tried resetting permissions on the documents/Plan G folder, no luck.  Currently stumped.  (This problem has been occurring with all versions of Plan G that I've tried, including Version 2.

Here is my log, as you can see it goes to FALSE at the save command:

22:57:53.7 Cleanup
22:57:55.9

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22:57:55.9 Starting Plan-G (W7 edition), build 3.1.2.101
22:57:55.9 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0
22:57:56.0 InitDataFolder
22:57:56.0 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:57:56.0 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:57:56.0 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:57:56.1 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:57:56.1 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
22:57:56.1 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
22:57:56.1 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
22:57:56.5 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\John\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
22:57:56.7 Program in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plan-G v3.1.2
22:57:56.7 Data in: C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
22:57:56.7 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:57:56.7 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:57:56.8 Starting timer
22:57:56.8 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
22:57:56.8 Metar12Z.TXT started
22:57:56.8 Metar11Z.TXT started
22:57:56.8 lTAF06Z.TXT started
22:57:56.8 sTAF12Z.TXT started
22:57:57.6 lTAF12Z.TXT started
22:57:58.6 sTAF12Z.TXT done
22:57:58.6 sTAF06Z.TXT started
22:57:59.3 IsDataLoaded: FSX
22:57:59.3 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
22:57:59.3 IsDataLoaded: FS9
22:57:59.3 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
22:57:59.3 IsDataLoaded: P3D
22:57:59.3 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
22:57:59.3 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
22:57:59.3 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
22:58:00.2 Stopping timer
22:58:00.2 StartMap
22:58:00.2 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf'
22:58:00.4 NdbsInBounds 100
22:58:00.5 VorsInBounds 23
22:58:00.5 sTAF06Z.TXT done
22:58:00.7 AirportsInBounds 105
22:58:01.3 AirspaceInBounds 105
22:58:01.4 NdbsInBounds 100
22:58:01.4 VorsInBounds 23
22:58:01.4 AirportsInBounds 105
22:58:01.5 AirspaceInBounds 105
22:58:02.0 lTAF06Z.TXT done
22:58:04.4 buildContextMenu
22:58:04.4 AllardJD: Checking YBDG in C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Charts
22:58:04.4 DEM for lat = -36.7520891569463, lng = 144.349365234375 file = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\DEM\l10g found = False
22:58:04.4 lTAF12Z.TXT done
22:58:04.4 _currentPlanNodeIndex = -1
22:58:06.4 Add Airport: -1 YBDG Bendigo
22:58:06.7 Metar12Z.TXT done
22:58:07.4 buildContextMenu
22:58:07.4 AllardJD: Checking YBGR in C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Charts
22:58:07.4 DEM for lat = -36.6111183849417, lng = 143.94287109375 file = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\DEM\l10g found = False
22:58:07.4 _currentPlanNodeIndex = -1
22:58:08.6 AddAirport_Executed
22:58:08.7 Add Airport: -1 YBGR Bridgewater
22:58:09.9 Metar11Z.TXT done
22:58:09.9 DownloadCurrentMetars done
22:58:10.1 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
22:58:10.5 ProcessMetars done
22:58:13.3 SaveFlightPlan_Executed. FSX Filter = FSX Flight plan files (*.pln)|*.pln
22:58:13.3 Plan name = VFR Bendigo to Bridgewater
22:58:13.3 Save: initial folder = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
22:58:13.4 Dialog closed FALSE
22:58:13.4 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
22:59:06.0 userWaypointManager.OnLoaded start
22:59:06.0 DataChangedHandler clearing waypoints
22:59:06.0 userWaypointManager.OnLoaded end
22:59:08.6 OnClosing
22:59:45.0 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
23:00:17.3 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
23:00:17.3 SaveFlightPlan_Executed. FSX Filter = Plan-G Flight plan files (*.plg)|*.plg
23:00:17.3 Plan name = VFR Bendigo to Bridgewater
23:00:17.3 Save: initial folder = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
23:00:17.4 Dialog closed FALSE
23:00:19.4 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
23:00:20.9 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
23:00:20.9 SaveFlightPlan_Executed. FSX Filter = Plan-G Flight plan files (*.plg)|*.plg
23:00:20.9 Plan name = VFR Bendigo to Bridgewater
23:00:20.9 Save: initial folder = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
23:00:21.0 Dialog closed FALSE
23:00:35.6 Cleanup
23:01:48.3

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23:01:48.3 Starting Plan-G (W7 edition), build 3.1.2.101
23:01:48.3 OS is Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7600.0
23:01:48.4 InitDataFolder
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_NAVI.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\UserWaypoints.sdf
23:01:48.4 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\MEF.sdf
23:01:48.9 Map tiles cache: C:\Users\John\AppData\Local\GMap.NET\
23:01:49.0 Program in: C:\Program Files (x86)\Plan-G v3.1.2
23:01:49.0 Data in: C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
23:01:49.0 IsDataLoaded: FSX
23:01:49.0 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
23:01:49.1 Starting timer
23:01:49.1 DownloadCurrentMetars thread started
23:01:49.2 lTAF06Z.TXT started
23:01:49.2 Metar13Z.TXT started
23:01:49.2 Metar12Z.TXT started
23:01:49.2 sTAF12Z.TXT started
23:01:49.4 sTAF12Z.TXT done
23:01:49.4 lTAF12Z.TXT started
23:01:50.1 sTAF06Z.TXT started
23:01:50.7 IsDataLoaded: FSX
23:01:50.7 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf
23:01:50.8 IsDataLoaded: FS9
23:01:50.8 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_FS9.sdf
23:01:50.8 IsDataLoaded: P3D
23:01:50.8 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_P3D.sdf
23:01:50.8 IsDataLoaded: XPlane
23:01:50.8 Data Source = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Data\PlanG3_XPX.sdf
23:01:51.3 sTAF06Z.TXT done
23:01:51.7 Stopping timer
23:01:51.7 StartMap
23:01:51.7 Connection string: metadata=res://*/Data.FSData.csdl|res://*/Data.FSData.ssdl|res://*/Data.FSData.msl;provider=System.Data.SqlServerCe.3.5;provider connection string='Data Source=|DataDirectory|\Data\PlanG3_FSX.sdf'
23:01:51.9 NdbsInBounds 101
23:01:52.0 VorsInBounds 23
23:01:52.2 AirportsInBounds 106
23:01:52.8 AirspaceInBounds 107
23:01:52.9 NdbsInBounds 101
23:01:52.9 VorsInBounds 23
23:01:52.9 AirportsInBounds 106
23:01:53.0 AirspaceInBounds 107
23:01:55.4 lTAF12Z.TXT done
23:01:55.8 buildContextMenu
23:01:55.8 AllardJD: Checking YBGR in C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Charts
23:01:55.8 DEM for lat = -36.6111183849417, lng = 143.96484375 file = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\DEM\l10g found = False
23:01:55.8 _currentPlanNodeIndex = -1
23:01:56.3 lTAF06Z.TXT done
23:01:57.0 Metar13Z.TXT done
23:01:57.1 Add Airport: -1 YBGR Bridgewater
23:01:58.1 buildContextMenu
23:01:58.2 AllardJD: Checking YSTA in C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Charts
23:01:58.2 DEM for lat = -36.6419778147059, lng = 143.168334960938 file = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\DEM\l10g found = False
23:01:58.2 _currentPlanNodeIndex = -1
23:02:00.3 AddAirport_Executed
23:02:00.3 Add Airport: -1 YSTA Saint Arnaud
23:02:01.9 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
23:02:03.9 Metar12Z.TXT done
23:02:03.9 DownloadCurrentMetars done
23:02:04.4 ProcessMetars done
23:02:04.6 SaveFlightPlan_Executed. FSX Filter = FSX Flight plan files (*.pln)|*.pln
23:02:04.6 Plan name = VFR Bridgewater to Saint Arnaud
23:02:04.6 Save: initial folder = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
23:02:04.7 Dialog closed FALSE
23:02:04.8 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
23:02:13.1 buildContextMenu
23:02:13.1 DEM for lat = -36.6111183849417, lng = 143.794555664063 file = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\DEM\l10g found = False
23:02:13.2 _currentPlanNodeIndex = -1
23:02:17.7 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: True
23:02:19.2 _Backstage_IsOpenChanged: False
23:02:19.2 SaveFlightPlan_Executed. FSX Filter = Plan-G Flight plan files (*.plg)|*.plg
23:02:19.2 Plan name = VFR Bridgewater to Saint Arnaud
23:02:19.2 Save: initial folder = C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files
23:02:19.3 Dialog closed FALSE
23:02:24.6 Cleanup

[spokes2112]

Have you looked here for them? - C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files  This is where the output is saying they're going.

Normally the *.plg files would go to  C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Plans
and the -*.pln files would go to C:\Users\John\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files

Each time you save or export a plan/plg you have to navigate to the correct folder. Plan-G does not keep track of the last folder opened when using different file types during the same session.

A trick I have done is to create a shortcut to C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Plans then place that shortcut in C:\Users\John\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files. Then do the opposite, create a shortcut to C:\Users\John\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files then place that shortcut in C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files\Plans. Now when the save dialog opens you can shortcut directly (double click the shortcut) to where you want to go with the file, then save.

Of course this could be all moot if you find that the .plg & .pln files are not in the C:\Users\John\Documents\Plan-G Files root folder. Just an idea.

Roman

[nojwod]

Thanks for the response.  The program just does not save.  After I click Export and then the FSX pln option, it simply returns to the main map screen.  No pop-ups, windows, options or advisories!

It's got me beat.  The log just shows that it doesn't proceed with the save but gives no reason for it.

Something must be causing the Save dialogue box to not show up... or any part of the Save routine.

[tim arnot]

See this thread: http://www.tasoftware.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2825.msg15097#msg15097 There's a C++ redistributable that some people seem not to have, and it's reported that adding it cures the problem.

[nojwod]

Thanks Tim, have been through all the steps I could find on this forum, including reinstalling the C++ stuff.  Is there a way of checking that it is installed and operating correctly though?

[tim arnot]

Nothing that I know about :(

I could have the autosave routine write an export version, which would at least give you something on disc that you could move/rename, but that's all I can think of. The problem is that something outside of my control is telling the file dialog to cancel as soon as it loads.

[nojwod]

Yeah I'd love that... one day I will be rebuilding my W7 and FSX install but probably not for months to come yet!  I'd plug on with the FSX planner except for the inability to find non standard airfields!

Thanks

John

[nojwod]

Hi Tim

As the only impediment to saving the FSX flight plan appears to be something inexplicable in my computer, I was thinking I could install Plan G on my laptop and use that to develop my FSX flight plans, which I can then copy over to the FS computer.

However this would require the FSX database from my FS machine version of Plan G.  Is there any problem copying the database that has been generated in my FS machine over to the laptop version to show all the available airfields?

If the databases could be copied over, could you let me know what I would need to copy and where they're located?  If tis works it'll be a lifesaver!!!



EDIT:  All good, I copied the Plan G Files folder from documents to the laptop and the program started and displays all my airports, and allowed me to save the PLN file which I then dropped into the FS computer folder and flew the flight plan.  Slightly more hassle than ideal but woo hoo who cares, it works!

Cheers

[tim arnot]

I see you've already sussed it. :)

[Glendower]

I have the same problem.  I had it a long time ago and did find a fix for it on the internet. Now I have re-installed FSX and all the addons, the problem has re-occured.

From what I can remember, it has something to do with the location of the flightplan folder and the location of the main FSX folder, but I just can't remember the "fix".

If anyone has a clue, I'd be most grateful.

Cheers

Glendower

[gulliver54]

I don't know for sure but is it possible that you have an illegal version of W7?